How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

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Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

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Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

What is the best way to get over your ex?

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

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— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

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How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

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यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

Can you explain the meaning of "mint condition" in relation to antiques or collectibles?

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

What is the opposite personality type of someone with ASPD (antisocial personality disorder)?

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

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ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

What traits are considered unattractive? Which traits are typically seen as attractive and why?

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

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Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

CONCLUSION:

Now here in this verse

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

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From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

NOW…

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

Sain (a barber)

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

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Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

then who is there to know what happens without?

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

Kabir (a weaver)

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

I am like a fish out of water,